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		By: ij		</title>
		<link>https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2162</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 13:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2161&quot;&gt;Jonathan&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, everyone should be able to easily understand this was no scientific paper on  resource consumption. So, please don&#039;t overestimate the importance of this blog post. If you feel that you can contribute a better summary of those mentioned Fediverse apps, then feel free! I&#039;d be interested in your results. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2161">Jonathan</a>.</p>
<p>Well, everyone should be able to easily understand this was no scientific paper on  resource consumption. So, please don&#8217;t overestimate the importance of this blog post. If you feel that you can contribute a better summary of those mentioned Fediverse apps, then feel free! I&#8217;d be interested in your results. 🙂</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 11:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s hard to extrapolate anything meaningful from your personal Matrix server of one user. The usage pattern of one person on such a system surely bears no resemblance to patterns of multiple people communicating with each other. And any such solution will have some up-front cost which is amortised when you have more users. Trying to present these figures as useful just undermines the whole report, IMHO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hard to extrapolate anything meaningful from your personal Matrix server of one user. The usage pattern of one person on such a system surely bears no resemblance to patterns of multiple people communicating with each other. And any such solution will have some up-front cost which is amortised when you have more users. Trying to present these figures as useful just undermines the whole report, IMHO.</p>
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		By: ij		</title>
		<link>https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2160</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 05:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2159&quot;&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Matthew! 

Yeah, I agree with you that Matrix is not a messaging protocol. In the article I wrote that Matrix is more a replacement for MS Teams or similar solutions. You are writing that it is a message store, my word is that it is like a distributed database. 
So, I think we have a similar view on this. :) 

It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t like Matrix. Instead I&#039;m following the development of e.g. Project Phoenix with great interest (greetings to Gawain! ;)). But I do have some criticism with Matrix as well, but I think that&#039;s for another post and not for a comment. 

In this article I focused mainly on resource consumption as a replacement for messengers like WhatsApp and based on my provided metrics XMPP is suited better for that purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2159">Matthew</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Matthew! </p>
<p>Yeah, I agree with you that Matrix is not a messaging protocol. In the article I wrote that Matrix is more a replacement for MS Teams or similar solutions. You are writing that it is a message store, my word is that it is like a distributed database.<br />
So, I think we have a similar view on this. 🙂 </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t like Matrix. Instead I&#8217;m following the development of e.g. Project Phoenix with great interest (greetings to Gawain! ;)). But I do have some criticism with Matrix as well, but I think that&#8217;s for another post and not for a comment. </p>
<p>In this article I focused mainly on resource consumption as a replacement for messengers like WhatsApp and based on my provided metrics XMPP is suited better for that purpose.</p>
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		By: Matthew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2021 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fact that Matrix is using so much resources for a single user is because it&#039;s a message store, *not* a messaging protocol like XMPP. If you join loads of busy rooms, the rooms get replicated onto your server.  So a single busy user can easily use gigabytes of disk space.  We&#039;re improving the efficiency, but in the end one enthusiastic user can use way more space than thousands of users who just DM each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Matrix is using so much resources for a single user is because it&#8217;s a message store, *not* a messaging protocol like XMPP. If you join loads of busy rooms, the rooms get replicated onto your server.  So a single busy user can easily use gigabytes of disk space.  We&#8217;re improving the efficiency, but in the end one enthusiastic user can use way more space than thousands of users who just DM each other.</p>
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		By: ij		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2021 12:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2157&quot;&gt;Anon&lt;/a&gt;.

Thx, in German it&#039;s &quot;Ressourcen&quot;, so I think that&#039;s the reason for that. Fixed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.windfluechter.net/2021/05/01/the-fediverse-what-about-ressources/#comment-2157">Anon</a>.</p>
<p>Thx, in German it&#8217;s &#8220;Ressourcen&#8221;, so I think that&#8217;s the reason for that. Fixed.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2021 12:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s written &quot;resource&quot;]]></description>
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